Everyone has their own opinion of what setup they think is best for them, for different reasons. I think the setup I'm building is best for me because its as dependable as I need it to be, makes the amount of power necessary for someone my size to get around at a decent speed, and I'm building it to look the way I want, similar to a cafe/classic motorcycle. There are a lot of other styles that are nice, but this is the one that I like best. You chose your setup based on the fact that you believe it to be the most efficient, and feel there is sufficient data to back that opinion up. There is nothing wrong with either choice. But I will say this. Regardless of what type of engine you use, how much power it makes or how often/far you ride it, its still a bicycle with a motor attached and I will always recommend using the strongest frame one can find and afford. I'd rather go overkill than underkill any day, that's my philosophy and its the way I build and if someone asks me for advice, its how I'm going to give it. Some might agree, some might not. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter whether others agree with you or accept what you have to say. If you are convinced in your own mind, you should not care whether others agree with you or accept what you have to say. The fact that we both carried on this debate/argument for as long as we have shows that we both are passionate and care about our opinions and others acceptance of them. But I did not try to make you feel stupid nor did I bring up anything personal about you and even if I knew something about you I wouldn't being it up. Whether you think I should toughen up or not, you were pretty unfair towards me as was I towards you. But I didn't appreciate being called dim or fat, and I really didn't appreciate my tattoos being called stupid or crappy, and my tattoos and other personal info about me are completely irrelevant to the topic of motorbikes. I can at least say that most of what I said was related to motorbikes one way or another, besides the few jabs that I took at you. You rub me the wrong way. And being on the internet doesn't change the fact that we are still interacting with human beings, and a man's pride can get hurt. Just because I am overweight doesn't mean I have to accept being called fat, and just because I have ADD doesn't mean I have to accept being treated like I'm stupid. Maybe you might not care how people talk to you, but I do and that's my right because everyone should be treated fairly and with respect. The things you said to me, if we were face to face we'd be tussling. And that's not a threat, not me trying to say I'll whip you cause neither one of us knows one way or the other, its just to make a point that I don't tolerate that type of disrespect to my face. The only other person who called my tattoos stupid was my brother, to my face in my own house and I almost punched him in the mouth but he threatened to call the cops on me. You make it sound like I'm just a weak defenseless little turd who cries every time someone says boo. That is far from the case. I got called fat, stupid, ugly, nerd and all other kinds of names all growing up and the way I felt about it never changed. I was bullied and beat up by my own brother when I was young, and I mean beat up BAD. He set me on fire, tried to break my arm, made me fall 6 feet and land on my face, almost breaking my cheek bone, threw metal chairs at me, and called me fat and stupid all the time. So before you tell someone how to react to something, maybe stop and ask yourself how many times they heard it before or what else they might have been through. And I haven't said it yet, but I'm gonna say it now. Based on my interaction with you thus far, I think you're just like my brother.