(Chinese) 2-Stroke Ban, and Do We Care?

Do you care about the 2-stroke ban?


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I am bothered by the fact that we are collectively rationalizing the violation of the rule of law. Its simple, importing these engines is illegal. If vendors here didn't have an easy way to beat customs then perhaps the pressure would have been applied to speed up the development of 4 stroke power.
 
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well, (hmm, how do i say this?) i'm bothered by a government that would give breaks to companies that make huge gas guzzlers, while at the same time legislating poor people off the road altogether.

that wasn't to spark a debate, but to clarify why i don't much care that uncle sam doesn't like what i'm up to.

give me real alternatives that work for the masses & i'm there!
 
I am not the sharpest tool in the shed but when you look at the very basic, I see it like this;

To go 1000 miles at 8 Mpg takes 125 galons of gas.
To go 1000 miles at 150 Mpg takes 6.6 galons of gas.

So if you are saying that the emissions are higher out of 6.6 galons verses 125 galons, I say, it's impossible.
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Let me see if I can put my thoughts together coherently here...
I'm not gonna debate the emissions vs. fuel consumption- it's all interelated, and therefore must all be taken into account; we've got to look at the big picture and the ultimate bottom line to get a realisitc view. Numbers may be absolute, but when it comes to statistics, numbers can be skewed to support whatever side you're on.
I've no more to say on that.
What I'd like to get at is the idea of letting the solution be the revolution!
If we, collectively in this community, can work towards friendly legislation on the legalities of motored bikes overall, and can promote and present a good public image, it will lead us further down the road towards bringing these two strokes to America; by way of finding manufacturing HERE! We can build tier II compliant engines here...
Yes, yes, I know the nay sayers will shout about costs, and impossibilities, but were almost at a snapping point in this country, something has got to give, and either we will need to pull it back together or collapse and fall.
Why not work towards these little engines being the solution, and therefore, the revolution?
heh...
My final shout is that I hate government intrusion, I understand the need for some of it, but they get carried away and go way too far.
I hate the E.P.A. and the unfair play they get away with. Thyey ARE big business and it's all about lining pockets, NOT what's in the best interest of everyone overall.
I hate new cars, they are ugly, expensive, and **** near impossible to fiddle with. That's why i drive around in a pollution maker; it's part rebellion, part love...
So we've debated and discussed, now let's see if we can move the discussion towards action... What can we do? how can we get involved?
Where can we get started to make a difference and make this possibility a reality?
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I guess that means all the people won't be getting their lawns mowed, blowed,and leaves stowed by Jose. Also how loud is a Harley? Or a Jet taking off every five minutes over your house. A car uses 60,000 gallons of air to burn one gallon of gas .. who is the problem here??? I use a gallon a week!!
 
Wow, I just realized that I spelled gallons wrong. Good thing I anounced that I was not the sharpest tool in the shed.
I have an excuse, I'm on vicodin,ultram and vallium. All legal. Just had surgery.
hmm, did I spell surgery correct? Who the heck cares? Tee Hee, it's off to the rubber room I must go!
Now where did I put those pills? ;):):cool:
 
Wow, I just realized that I spelled gallons wrong. Good thing I anounced that I was not the sharpest tool in the shed.
I have an excuse, I'm on vicodin,ultram and vallium. All legal. Just had surgery.
hmm, did I spell surgery correct? Who the heck cares? Tee Hee, it's off to the rubber room I must go!
Now where did I put those pills? ;):):cool:

ROTFLMAO!!!!
Hope you get healed up and all good in short time!
Thanks for the brief comedic intermission...:LOL:
 
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