Advice for buying new engine

[bilboby]

Hello MBer's,

Well it's a long time since i've posted but then again the same can be said for MB riding. The BGF motor i've got isn't really up to the performance level i'd expect for MB riding and the pain of mixing gas/oil ratio's i've also found annoying. Therefore in order for getting a decent rear wheel friction drive MB ready for next Spring/Summers riding without breaking down or engine falling apart when riding etc, i've decided to sack the BGF motor and go for an engine type which i believe could fit the bill? The Manufacturers engine stat's make for intresting reading and the fact the engine look's more solidly built than the cheap Chinese bgf sways me into possibly making a purchase. The very fact this engine is sold in europe means it'd be cheaper for purchase than ordering a top of the range motor from the US, ie: from one of MB.COM's Sponsors. However what do any of you guys think? Apologies for putting you on the spot but like i say. The fact it's sold in europe and looks more solid etc would such an engine be worth investing given that the BGF motor i've got was riddled with mechanical flaws. Once again apologies, this time for a long post requesting a simple answer.

Cheers and good MB riding


NB: The moteur in question is on the link below hence any advice on purchasing or not would be appreciated, thank's.

http://cgi.ebay.fr/MOTEUR-THERMIQUE-...item3361159337

[KilroyCD]

That is a 208cc, 7hp engine! I'm no expert, but could that be a wee bit too much for a friction drive?

Cela est un 208cc, 7hp moteur ! Je ne suis pas d'expert, mais pouvoir qui est un peu petit trop pour une unité de friction ?

[bilboby]

That is a 208cc, 7hp engine! I'm no expert, but could that be a wee bit too much for a friction drive?

Cela est un 208cc, 7hp moteur ! Je ne suis pas d'expert, mais pouvoir qui est un peu petit trop pour une unité de friction ?

Too much in terms of power or that of weight?

After investigating further the GX200 i'm now not so sure it would fit snug onto the friction drive assembly unit therefore hopefully i'll find a Company in France or Europe that sells a simliar quality Japanese made engine @ around 50cc that'll do the job?

French Custom's can be a real pain when ordering stuff from the US and the import duty tax on a similar sent engine could nearly double the price. Hence why i prefer trying for a european purchase if possible if not then a reliable and respected US supplier who ship's at reasonablely cheap cost Internationally will need to be found.

Cheers

[Whizzerd]

If you've got your heart set on a 2-cycle the Mitsubishi TLE series is a smooth, quiet and gas miserly Japanese made unit. I think we've discussed the Japanese Robin/Subaru 4 cycle before. Jewel like but not as powerful as the Chinese made 50 cc Huasheng. Of course there are the Honda 35 cc and 50cc 4 strokes. The Japanese engines are not inexpensive but then top quality seldom is. Good Luck!

[KilroyCD]

Too much in terms of power or that of weight?

I would think that it is too much power for a friction drive unit. I have a mental picture of the roller shredding the tyre. I don't know how much that engine weighs, but I'm sure it is likely to be substantial.
The 4-stroke Honda engines Whizzerd suggested would be great choices, and are likely to be much lighter as well. I don't know if they are available in Europe however. I have personal experience with the HuaSheng 142 (which is a clone of the Honda GX50), and if that engine is available to you it would be a very good choice.

[Esteban]

Try to find a French dealer who sells Robin/Subaru , Honda , Mitsubishi engines , under 50cc , for a much more reliable 4 stroke friction drive.

[unior]

After being a huasheng owner. I cannot recommend them. Not until they switch to a metal cam gear instead of that self destructing plastic.

[bilboby]

Cheers guy's for your advice input but unfortunately having spent much of my time since starting this thread surfing the WWW for a European supplier of the Honda GXH 50 alas only one supplier was found (Belguim) but the price is double that found in the US. Therefore i've emailed Staton-Inc for enquiring if they will accept and ship over to Europe ofwhich i'm now waiting for there reply, if i get one?

Off topic: I'm also keen on modifying the friction drive setup to that of belt drive so will be emailing a MB.Com sponsor for knowing if likewise they accept European orders for their all in one belt/chain drive kit?

For now it's not urgent as i don't see myself MB riding before next Spring (driving 4 wheels until then) but if i'm lucky enough to get the engine + belt/chain drive kit before then i think i could be onto a winner?

Cheers MBer's

[Whizzerd]

Best of Luck. It sounds as if the MB "bug" has bit you hard enough that you're willing to spend some Euros to get a fine & reliable MB going. You WILL get pretty much what you pay for in this Hobby. Personally I believe 100% in the www.bikemotorparts.com drive system. James at BMP has just released a new system that might interest you. I don't think you could correctly build it yourself for less. Happy Holidays!

[bilboby]

I received a reply from Staton-Inc who seem a decent Company for dealing with as they suggest that i should go for the cheaper option when buying a motor + kit. My enquiry with them was the purchase for the Honda GHX 50 ofwhich there reply was i'd be better off purchasing

http://www.staton-inc.com/store/prod...nk-994-15.html

along with

http://www.staton-inc.com/store/prod...s-1000-15.html

However as i'm a 250lbs MB'er would the Subaru EH035 have enough MB power riding such a weight?

They also replied that if i still wanted a Honda GHX 50 then also i'd need an additional kit (thus in the long run making for a more expensive buy) that of

http://www.staton-inc.com/store/prod...it-483-16.html

What do you guy's reckon? Should i go along with Statons advice and purchase the suggested Subaru Kit's or perhap's the more expensive option of buying the more powerful GHX 50 & it's adapter kit?

Cheers for any feedback as your advice will be invaluable given the kit i settle for will be a one off purchase having already been expensively ripped off by my decision first of buying the **** quality 50cc friction drive kit sold by BGF. Though i don't hold accountable BGF for selling me this product as i should not of dived straight in at the deep end without first thinking about buying a top Quality engine + kit against the Cheaper Chinese versions.

Hence "Once bitten twice shy" should be rule" when upgrading a MB

Kind regards